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  Conspiracy Theorist groups similar to the Watchtower

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was watching a you tube video on charlie veitch and i could not help but see the parallels with his experience with truthers and the ex jw experience with the watchtower.

  what do you think?:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_uyzitc_90.

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  Conspiracy "theories" and religious beliefs share much in common.  Anything they feel contradicts their views requires a ridiculous amount of evidence and support.  Whereas, anything they feel supports their claims they accept unchecked.  And all experts or "authorities" are either highly suspect or just plain evil.  
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  (Knock Knock) Who's there?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jws knocked on your door what would you say?.

  i know jws don't really do "ministry" anymore (just leave special campaign tracts at the door and run away as fast as they can so they don't have to talk to anyone) but if they ever actually tried to have a conversation with me i wonder what i would say.

  most likely i'd ask about matthew 4:8 where it says the devil took jesus to the top of an unusually high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world.

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  "If God inspired the Bible as his perfect word - why did he not keep it as his perfect word?"
  

  -Bart Ehrman (Textual Scholar)
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  (Knock Knock) Who's there?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jws knocked on your door what would you say?.

  i know jws don't really do "ministry" anymore (just leave special campaign tracts at the door and run away as fast as they can so they don't have to talk to anyone) but if they ever actually tried to have a conversation with me i wonder what i would say.

  most likely i'd ask about matthew 4:8 where it says the devil took jesus to the top of an unusually high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world.

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  If JWs knocked on your door what would you say?

  
  

  I know JWs don't really do "ministry" anymore (just leave special campaign tracts at the door and run away as fast as they can so they don't have to talk to anyone) but if they ever actually tried to have a conversation with me I wonder what I would say.   Most likely I'd ask about Matthew 4:8 where it says the Devil took Jesus to the top of an unusually high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world.  I would say something along the lines of, "Do you really believe Satan took Jesus to the top of Mt. Everest?  Surely you know you can't see the whole world from the top of a mountain."

  When they say something along the lines of, "It's a metaphor" - or - "It's not literal."  I would hit them with - "So you don't ACTUALLY believe that happened then?"

  Or I might bring up Jonah, "Do you actually believe he was inside a whale for three days?  You know someone can't live inside a whale right?"  Just to see if I could dredge up any cognitive dissonance.  I really wonder what they would say.  I have no idea what I would have said had someone hit me with that at the door.

  
  

  Anyways, just my thoughts.  Any particular scriptures or doctrinal question you would bring up?  
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  Will the evolutionists save us from the coming catastrophe?

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the earth's magnetic field is in a weakening stage right now.

  data collected this summer by a european space agency (esa) satellite suggests the field is weakening 10 times faster than scientists originally thought.

  if the magnetic field weakens enough, then the earth could be hit with dangerous amounts of solar radiation and cosmic rays .....

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  Weapons grade stupidity.  The poles shifting aren't going to kill everyone off.  It's happened many times before in earths history.  We don't need anyone to "save" us.

  And just out of curiosity, what's an "evolutionist"?
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  Building Your Own Rudder

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some thoughts on meaning, human nature, and the initial difficulties of learning ttatt.. .

  it's not just the fear of the wild, the untamed, or the untraversed regions of the mind that drives jws to seek shelter in the dim and dark citadels of their ignorance - seemingly protected from the insoluble mysteries of their universe.

  but it's also the fact that the winds of reality can, at times, be cold and harsh and can rain storm and thunder upon everything they thought they knew.

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  I just find it odd that people will look for meaning just about everywhere . . . except for the only place they can really find it - within themselves.  
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  Building Your Own Rudder

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some thoughts on meaning, human nature, and the initial difficulties of learning ttatt.. .

  it's not just the fear of the wild, the untamed, or the untraversed regions of the mind that drives jws to seek shelter in the dim and dark citadels of their ignorance - seemingly protected from the insoluble mysteries of their universe.

  but it's also the fact that the winds of reality can, at times, be cold and harsh and can rain storm and thunder upon everything they thought they knew.

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  Some thoughts on meaning, human nature, and the initial difficulties of learning TTATT.

  
  

  
  

  It's not just the fear of the wild, the untamed, or the untraversed regions of the mind that drives JWs to seek shelter in the dim and dark citadels of their ignorance - seemingly protected from the insoluble mysteries of their universe.  But it's also the fact that the winds of reality can, at times, be cold and harsh and can rain storm and thunder upon everything they thought they knew.  So the JWs take refuge behind their unenlightened walls where they feel safe from the uncertain, protected from the unknown, and oblivious to that terrifying chasm that stands between existence . . . and meaning.

  It's truly unfortunate that the abyss is something most minds cannot easily comprehend. Because no two people can use the same bridge to get across.  The connection between existence and meaning can only ever be built by its wayfarer.  And, far too often, JWs surrender their identity - their life's meaning - to conformity. All the while seeking inspiration in the white noise of their ancient book, new age beliefs, or in the comfort of ceremonial rites (baptism), religious customs (service), and the long preformed sacraments of ancient communions (memorial).  But the pathway out of darkness is not in the catacombs of ignorance.  Rather, meaning is found high up in the foothills and in the mountains of knowledge.  And, while no one knows if these peaks can ever be conquered, it is none the less true that the higher up you climb - the further out you can see.  And the further out you can see, the more likely you are to lay eyes upon your prize.

  
  

  There are plenty of things worth believing in.  And there are almost an infinite amount of causes and worthwhile pursuits.  But the religious and the supernatural are not among them.  The narrative - the story telling of our lives - must be ours and ours alone.  Meaning is not something that can be prescribed, or gifted or handed out. Rather, meaning is a pursuit, a lifelong pilgrimage, into the unknown.  It's the aspiration to be more than what we are.  It's the ability to imagine and to comprehend and, sometimes, to even do dare to do what was once thought impossible.

  
  

  Just because we've collapsed the cage doesn't mean we've escaped the cage. Just because we've realized our beliefs were false doesn't mean that we're not still trapped by the same bad reasoning that got us there in the first place. No one can walk our path for us.

  
  

  We are the custodian of life's meaning. And if we crave some cosmic purpose then we had better find ourselves a worthy goal.

  -Carl Sagan
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  Building 500 new kingdom halls?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wtbts has to know they aren't actually going to see their numbers significantly jump anytime soon/ever right?

  are they planning on cutting the rbc down to 1/10th the work force so they can actually slow down their kh projects instead of increasing them?

  or do they think their little website scheme is actually going to bring in more people?.

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  The WTBTS has to know they aren't actually going to see their numbers significantly jump anytime soon/ever right? Are they planning on cutting the RBC down to 1/10th the work force so they can actually slow down their KH projects instead of increasing them? Or do they think their little website scheme is actually going to bring in more people?

  This is just all bluster and saber rattling right?

  (From LCD Seminar)

  Here is the task of the LDC: Build 5 times as many Kingdom halls with 1/10 the work force – oh, and 1 more thing – do it for no money!

  Jehovah likes impossible odds – this way its clear that He is with his people

  Right now we have:

  132 RBC’s

  1350 overseers

  270,000 people in Builder Assist (we want to reduce this down to 30,000)

  STANDARIZATION = SIMPLIFICATION=ACCELERATION

  • 617 / week are getting baptized – he is angry

  • 32,518 / year

  • • We built only 65 new KH in past year – we have a back log of 500 halls to be built plus more every day

  Full Seminar posted by Sourgrapes:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/289353/1/LDC-Semininar
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  If Your JW Parent Died Would YOU Go To The Kingdom Hall For The Talk?

  by minimus in

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  i would like your thoughts, please..

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  JW funerals don't honor the dead. They just try and use it as a recruiting tool.
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  My Goodness Sakes - I don't know how I missed this - The Ultimate US - Canada - Brit Tribute

  by berrygerry in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2o3oaqjng.

  god bless rock n roll.

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  Amen to that!
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  Why Do Theist Struggle So Much For A God Who Supposedly Exists?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a theist made this casual statement on another thread,.

  from ancient accounts hostile to christinity, we can learn about (jesus).

  as a theist, how could they possibly trust the source to suggest this to himself?

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  A Theist made this casual statement on another thread,

  From ancient accounts hostile to Christinity, we can learn about (Jesus)

  -Perry

  As a Theist, how could they possibly trust the source to suggest this to himself? If God really exists, why would anyone need to trust hostile sources? Why would they even concern themselves with anything other than what they consider to be God's devine revelation?

  Is the need to collect money, build churches and evangalize really consistant with an all powerful God? Why do Theist do these things if their God can do anything? Why are they borrowing from a secular world view where humans have to do things for themselves?

  Because deep down inside, they know God isn't real. In other words, Theists Don't Exist .

  This video below fully develops these findings. Merry Christmas to all.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kosm7RFO2ew

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  P.S. This thread is satrical. Please reference Perry's Post

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/289368/1/Why-Do-Atheists-Struggle-So-Much-Against-God-Who-Supposedly-Doesnt-Exist